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9:24:27 AM MR. KARL turned attention to landfills, and stated that a solution to unsightly landfills in villages is a firebox unit that is approved for use in Class 11 or Class l11 landfills. The unit costs between $90,000 and $500,000 and is equipped with water panels to store heat, and burns very hot with an air curtain. The unit makes sense for every community because it will burn trash and capture heat [slide 14]. REPRESENTATIVE HIGGINS asked whether the unit can burn everything. MR. KARL said yes, adding that nothing is separated and the 2 percent of metal and glass left can be raked out and recycled. His said his goal is to deliver coal to the villages for a guaranteed price. The villages will have no risk but to sign a 100-year contract. He invited everyone to see the units in operation. REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON cautioned that some solid waste is noxious if burned. MR. KARL pointed out that there is very little industry in villages. If present, hazardous waste must be separately handled, but the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) has approved this unit for normal household waste burned at 1,800 degrees. REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK expressed interest in seeing the unit. 9:29:27 AM CO-CHAIR ISAACSON asked how the unit is fueled. MR. KARL answered that the unit is lit with cardboard, paper, or a gallon of diesel fuel, and then "goes catalytic." Mr. Karl restated his belief in the products he described and offered to provide a tour at Chena Hot Springs Resort, K and K Recycling, or Chena Power [slides 15-17]. CO-CHAIR ISAACSON asked Mr. Karl to explain how to make these products into an integrated system. MR. KARL suggested beginning with efficiency such as using highly efficient materials in new construction even when energy is available. Also, converting to light-emitting diode (LED) HOUSE ENE COMMITTEE -11- March 27, 2013PDF Image | ALASKA ENERGY PROBLEMS SOLUTIONS
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